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Okay, Mike...so the organization speaks for itself. Over on GEnie, George Martin came in, and speaking as Vice President for SFWA, speaking for the *group*, said, of my statement to disqualify myself from future Nebulas to show that this isn't part of a vested interest on my part but rather the principle, "Don't you have enough awards, Joe?" When another fan reminded him of my statement given above, he said, "You cannot disqualify yourself from a Nebula, and I suspect Joe knew that." (Which I didn't.) In essense he first questions my motives and my ethics, then assaults my honesty, as his way of dealing with my raising the issue. (I then made it plain that I will not accept any Nebula in future, regardless, if that's what it takes, though I think most people knowing you don't want one will tend to discourage voting in that area.)
So now what is this, George speaking as George, or George speaking for SFWA the organization? Because when he came in he sure as heck made it clear that he was speaking in his capacity as VP.
Sorry, Mike, but the organization acts as its members act, and speaks as its members speaks, and George's intemperate reaction, to immediately and gratuitously go for the personal attack rather than discussing the issue, when I had never said a WORD about any one person in this discussion, just shows again why many are afraid to pursue this issue any more. They're tired of the petty, personal attacks, and so am I, from many of the members AND the organization and its spokespersons. Because an organization doesn't exist as some kind of Platonic ideal, outside reality (though in this I sometimes wonder if SFWA is outside reality). It says in the Bible, "You shall know them by their works." An organization is known by what it does, and what it says, through its members. So you can try and divorce the two all you want, but they're the same thing.
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