From: STRACZYNSKI [Joe]
Subject: Actually, we've already *had* ST...
To: GENIE
Date: 1/13/1996 3:50:00 PM
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Actually, we've already *had* ST vs. B5 in sports; our softball team has played both the DS9 and Voyager teams. We lost to Voyager and whomped the hell out of DS9.
Here's what was given to the Paramount people, as best I can recall at this time, I'd have to check the correspondence to be sure: the script for "The Gathering" pilot movie; eight to ten pieces of original conceptual artwork done by Peter Ledger helping to explain the concept and giving character sketches; the series "sell" bible which has NEVER been released to any writer, it was *only* intended as a device to help explain to studios and networks the direction and nature of the show; lengthy backgrounds on all of the characters, and descriptions for the overall direction of the series, and synopses of about 22 or so planned episodes taken from the overall course of the planned series. There was a LOT of material.
But let me clarify and reinforce something I said on CIS and elsewhere: I don't believe that either Berman or Pillar would deliberately take B5 material and use it. My *only* concern was that in the initial stages of development, which always receive a great deal of "guidance" from studio execs, that the execs who DID have the material might have "guided" them in our direction, in an attempt to co-opt what we were doing for WB/PTEN, because there's great animosity between those two studios, and out of a desire to protect their franchise and eliminate any competition by basically absorbing it.
Sometimes it does bother me, and I wonder about what the heck's going on, when I see the only other space station series doing a big arc about alien forces infiltrating earth government, and brewing civil war on Earth, at the *exact same moment* that we're doing it on our show; earlier, later, fine, but that they'd do basically the same thing at the same time feels like another attempt to co-opt what we're doing on this show. (Not copy; co-opt, which happens all the time. Remember Deepstar Six? And another underwater monster movie released about the same time? Those were both *direct* attempt to co- opt The Abyss by coming out first. It happens all the time. When Ghost was in heavy development, every studio in town was scurrying around looking for an after-life movie to put out fast...I know because I got called in and asked to come up with something by a major studio...I declined.) If you kinda know the direction someone else is going, you try to jump ahead and get there first, so that the other either loses impact, or is considered simply an imitation. (Which is one reason why DS9 was hurried through post production to get it on the air a few weeks before B5's pilot, I suspect.)
Are we being co-opted? I dunno. When I hear that there's a red headed woman character on DS9 named Leeta (prounced the same as Lyta); when I see them doing the same kind of arc we're doing but getting it out a little earlier, I will confess it does give me pause sometimes. I try to think the best under these conditions. For now, I'm asuming it's all just coincidence.
(Oh, and as for scripts vs. production times...we are generally far ahead of most shows on scripts, about 4 episodes ahead of production at any moment. So this next batch of scripts was probably written around August, at which time they're circulated over town to agents and the like as part of casting. So I find it *highly* improbable that these DS9 episodes were written in June, knowing how close to the wire they tend to run over there.)
And, really, on another level, it's clear that they weren't ripping off B5 with this two-parter...I will defend that to the death by virtue of the clear logic that they're *really* ripping of SEVEN DAYS IN MAY. As for the timing...well, we'll see.
(This is something else that happens a lot in TV; a writer will say, "Okay, let's do FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX with Jessica Fletcher in the Henry Fonda role.")
Finally, re: Jeri Taylor...here I have to disagree. Though we don't talk as often as we should, or as I'd like, in large measure I think because of the perceived awkwardness between ST and B5 right now, I consider her not only a friend, but one of the best writer/producers in town. This isn't widely known, but she was my exec producer, with David Moessinger, on JAKE AND THE FATMAN. We worked together very closely, and I found her to be an immensely talented woman, very dedicated to quality storytelling, ethical and strong willed and generous to a fault. When she and David resigned from Jake on principle, over some stuff that was happening quite unfairly to them, I quit with them, even though it was my very first real network major gig, and my agent thought I was nuts. I don't do this for everybody. I did it for Jeri and David because they are good and decent people, because I cared about them, and because they were *right*...and they're two of the best writers I know.
If there's a problem with Voyager -- and I'm not saying there is, because I haven't seen enough of it to form a valid opinion -- it's due to the situation that has always pertained to ST: they make the writers there write with mittens on, and won't let them cut loose with the kinds of stories they COULD do, for fear of doing something controversial that might hurt "The Franchise." I've said it elsewhere and will repeat it again: I know the folks they've got over there, and if Paramount ever backed off and let them do what they're *capable* of doing, they'd blow the doors off of SF television.
So long story made short...no, I don't think B&P at DS9 are sitting there cribbing B5 plotlines from the original material provided to Paramount. I think they would refuse. They are ethical individuals. Are they playing a little at co-opting us, which is kind of more accepted in town? I don't know. I think you could make a compelling argument on either side. But I don't know the truth any more than you do, and if they say not, then I'm prepared to believe them. And as for Jeri, anybody here goes after her, has to go through me first.
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